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		<title>By: NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#171; Gadget Fee</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-127748</link>
		<dc:creator>NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#171; Gadget Fee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jun 2010 14:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Let&#39;s Discuss Technology here!!!</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-123178</link>
		<dc:creator>NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Let&#39;s Discuss Technology here!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 15:42:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Digital Economy Bill &#8211; Open Letter to My MP &#171; mydogminton</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-111458</link>
		<dc:creator>Digital Economy Bill &#8211; Open Letter to My MP &#171; mydogminton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Digital Economy Bill &#8211; Open Letter to My&#160;MP  The Government are currently trying to rush the Digital Economy Bill through Parliament before the expected general election in May. Not only are parts of the bill misguided and draconian, but this is clearly a subject on which opinion is divided. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Digital Economy Bill &#8211; Open Letter to My&nbsp;MP  The Government are currently trying to rush the Digital Economy Bill through Parliament before the expected general election in May. Not only are parts of the bill misguided and draconian, but this is clearly a subject on which opinion is divided. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Digital Economy Bill &#8211; against creativity and democracy &#124; David Campbell -- Photography, Multimedia, Politics</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-111394</link>
		<dc:creator>The Digital Economy Bill &#8211; against creativity and democracy &#124; David Campbell -- Photography, Multimedia, Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and individuals who have become fabulously wealthy through their control of creative content (think Simon Cowell). It passed the House of Lords on Monday, and is already into its second reading in the Commons. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and individuals who have become fabulously wealthy through their control of creative content (think Simon Cowell). It passed the House of Lords on Monday, and is already into its second reading in the Commons. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Syamsurian.com</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-109266</link>
		<dc:creator>NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Syamsurian.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Daily Electronic</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-109226</link>
		<dc:creator>NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Daily Electronic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; iPhoneGrez.com &#124; iPhone Tutorials, iPhone Firmwares, Unlock iPhone 3GS, Jailbreak iPhone 3GS, Unlock iPhone 3G, Jailbreak iPhone 3G, iPhone Apps</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-109209</link>
		<dc:creator>NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; iPhoneGrez.com &#124; iPhone Tutorials, iPhone Firmwares, Unlock iPhone 3GS, Jailbreak iPhone 3GS, Unlock iPhone 3G, Jailbreak iPhone 3G, iPhone Apps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Digital Digg Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-109205</link>
		<dc:creator>NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Digital Digg Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not like it&#8217;s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there&#8217;s virtually no chance that it won&#8217;t [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Easybranches.com&#8482;</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-109193</link>
		<dc:creator>NSFW: Hey, America! Our draconian copyright law could kick your draconian copyright law’s ass &#124; Easybranches.com&#8482;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] not like it’s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there’s virtually no chance that it won’t be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] not like it’s going to be a vote winner, either for this government or the next one. With the full lobbying force of the creative industries behind a new law, there’s virtually no chance that it won’t be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Arec Balrin</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2010/02/digital-economy-bill-unprecedented-lobbying-operation/comment-page-1/#comment-108671</link>
		<dc:creator>Arec Balrin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 14:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Carr, I&#039;ve seen frequent comparisons of piracy and child pornography(I won&#039;t use your politically correct label; we all know it&#039;s child abuse) in the debate and I&#039;ve heard politicians have actually been doing it in what little debates there have been in parliament. Did you miss this? Do you have any objection to the comparison and do you think the two are even comparable? Will you voice any objection? 

The proposals in the bill infringe any number of rights both enshrined and un-codified, hence the need to make emotive appeals between piracy, private distribution networks and child abuse. I take it from your post that you do not object to this in fact. You don&#039;t explicitly say what you think the solution is to the sharing of child porn, but your suggestion of police actively hunting down individual perpetrators as a result of &#039;no obvious technological fixes&#039; implies certain things. 

First, it avoids the big issue: what you suggest the police would have to do, is almost certainly illegal without a warrant. They would be doing the digital equivalent of opening someone&#039;s mail or tapping their phone.  A technological fix would not make this any more legal. 

Second, you must have an extremely low opinion of the communities that gather round these networks. Perhaps you have heard the hysterical claims about pirates being equivalent to molesters and thing there&#039;s no way they would shop a paedophile in their midst. They frequently do, but this is an area of society that journalists don&#039;t go to and aren&#039;t welcome, so you won&#039;t hear about it. 

Oh, and they didn&#039;t do it for money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Carr, I&#8217;ve seen frequent comparisons of piracy and child pornography(I won&#8217;t use your politically correct label; we all know it&#8217;s child abuse) in the debate and I&#8217;ve heard politicians have actually been doing it in what little debates there have been in parliament. Did you miss this? Do you have any objection to the comparison and do you think the two are even comparable? Will you voice any objection? </p>
<p>The proposals in the bill infringe any number of rights both enshrined and un-codified, hence the need to make emotive appeals between piracy, private distribution networks and child abuse. I take it from your post that you do not object to this in fact. You don&#8217;t explicitly say what you think the solution is to the sharing of child porn, but your suggestion of police actively hunting down individual perpetrators as a result of &#8216;no obvious technological fixes&#8217; implies certain things. </p>
<p>First, it avoids the big issue: what you suggest the police would have to do, is almost certainly illegal without a warrant. They would be doing the digital equivalent of opening someone&#8217;s mail or tapping their phone.  A technological fix would not make this any more legal. </p>
<p>Second, you must have an extremely low opinion of the communities that gather round these networks. Perhaps you have heard the hysterical claims about pirates being equivalent to molesters and thing there&#8217;s no way they would shop a paedophile in their midst. They frequently do, but this is an area of society that journalists don&#8217;t go to and aren&#8217;t welcome, so you won&#8217;t hear about it. </p>
<p>Oh, and they didn&#8217;t do it for money.</p>
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