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		<title>By: Martin Cole</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73832</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relax, it is only proving life-threatening in developed countries for those recently attending the Parliaments in Strasbourg and Westminster when representing any one of the three main parties - next up-date 7th June !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax, it is only proving life-threatening in developed countries for those recently attending the Parliaments in Strasbourg and Westminster when representing any one of the three main parties &#8211; next up-date 7th June !</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73404</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 20:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least we know we&#039;re ok if a shark flu hits:
http://5secondfilms.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least we know we&#8217;re ok if a shark flu hits:<br />
<a href="http://5secondfilms.com/" rel="nofollow">http://5secondfilms.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Laurent</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73344</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia&#039;s medical pages consistently link to the US medical encyclopedia MedlinePlus, but not to NHS Direct Online. Inconsistent formatting of NHS Direct Online entries is a practical hindrance, otherwise it would have been done long ago and almost all medical pages would link to UK governmental material. You could collaborate on providing us with a consistent linking format so we can easily linkout to NHS Direct resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia&#8217;s medical pages consistently link to the US medical encyclopedia MedlinePlus, but not to NHS Direct Online. Inconsistent formatting of NHS Direct Online entries is a practical hindrance, otherwise it would have been done long ago and almost all medical pages would link to UK governmental material. You could collaborate on providing us with a consistent linking format so we can easily linkout to NHS Direct resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Laurent</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73343</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Laurent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 22:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;ve recently finished a scientific study on the potential of Wikipedia for public health promotion, and we&#039;ve compared it to NHS Direct. The study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Informatics Association. Abstract available at http://www.jamia.org/cgi/content/abstract/M3059v1 . I think this should be useful background information to inform your proposal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve recently finished a scientific study on the potential of Wikipedia for public health promotion, and we&#8217;ve compared it to NHS Direct. The study was published in the Journal of the American Medical Informatics Association. Abstract available at <a href="http://www.jamia.org/cgi/content/abstract/M3059v1" rel="nofollow">http://www.jamia.org/cgi/content/abstract/M3059v1</a> . I think this should be useful background information to inform your proposal.</p>
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		<title>By: David Ruben</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73335</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ruben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 19:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia should not be &quot;maintained&quot; by governments, organisations or companies. Relevant polices are of &#039;Conflict of Interest&#039; and &#039;No Original Research&#039; - in essence an official (just as for an individual) cannot add something because of their private knowledge, instead material has to be verified by citing a reliable source and those in official positions are probably too close to have a balanced sense of which sources to select from. For a government official to add details of, say what the number of cases is going to be announced later in the day would be wholly inappropriate and where it to persist, after advising the user, result in their block for disrupting the work of other editors checking on the stated facts. Now I see no issue for a sentence of &quot;the UK government has stated there have been a total of x cases[1]&quot; for the value of x to be updated as the webpage [1] is amended, but maintaining the &#039;public health message&#039; as a means of crowd control by perhaps stating &quot;the UK policies have the situation under control&quot; is a subjective one needing independent secondary source and any civil servant editing in an official capacity will deservedly get cut down, and bring the more mundane work of others into disrepute (and there is enough sense of corruption and dishonesty with UK government and MPs at the present for everyone to wish that being whiter than white should be current motto). 

So whilst Wikipedia welcomes specialists (there are far too few), in general if there is a possibility of a conflict of interest then the user should restrict themselves to article talk page commentary &amp; suggestions, and let independent editors decide whether &amp; how to update the page. But a concerted effort amongst several civil servants to maintain a specific position (aka &quot;spin&quot;) risks being seen as sockpuppetry/meatpuppet, for which the response risks block to all involved... we need the experts, but they must be open and careful how they interact :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia should not be &#8220;maintained&#8221; by governments, organisations or companies. Relevant polices are of &#8216;Conflict of Interest&#8217; and &#8216;No Original Research&#8217; &#8211; in essence an official (just as for an individual) cannot add something because of their private knowledge, instead material has to be verified by citing a reliable source and those in official positions are probably too close to have a balanced sense of which sources to select from. For a government official to add details of, say what the number of cases is going to be announced later in the day would be wholly inappropriate and where it to persist, after advising the user, result in their block for disrupting the work of other editors checking on the stated facts. Now I see no issue for a sentence of &#8220;the UK government has stated there have been a total of x cases[1]&#8221; for the value of x to be updated as the webpage [1] is amended, but maintaining the &#8216;public health message&#8217; as a means of crowd control by perhaps stating &#8220;the UK policies have the situation under control&#8221; is a subjective one needing independent secondary source and any civil servant editing in an official capacity will deservedly get cut down, and bring the more mundane work of others into disrepute (and there is enough sense of corruption and dishonesty with UK government and MPs at the present for everyone to wish that being whiter than white should be current motto). </p>
<p>So whilst Wikipedia welcomes specialists (there are far too few), in general if there is a possibility of a conflict of interest then the user should restrict themselves to article talk page commentary &amp; suggestions, and let independent editors decide whether &amp; how to update the page. But a concerted effort amongst several civil servants to maintain a specific position (aka &#8220;spin&#8221;) risks being seen as sockpuppetry/meatpuppet, for which the response risks block to all involved&#8230; we need the experts, but they must be open and careful how they interact <img src='http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: heat press</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73326</link>
		<dc:creator>heat press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 14:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the media has been really quiet about this lately and it makes one wonder if all danger has passed. Is this outbreak a derious threat or not? We are not, are not being informed. My personnal take is that the virus is not as virulent/dangerous as the media would have us believe some weeks ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the media has been really quiet about this lately and it makes one wonder if all danger has passed. Is this outbreak a derious threat or not? We are not, are not being informed. My personnal take is that the virus is not as virulent/dangerous as the media would have us believe some weeks ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73142</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost always use Wikipedia as a first port of call on a topic (before exploring it in more detail elsewhere if I feel the need). The site ranks high in most Google queries and so is exceptionally accessible. Much more so than most UK government sources of information.

Given that large numbers of people are likely to use Wikipedia to glean information on topics such as pandemics, terrorist attacks, etc. I think it ought to be the responsibility of government departments to ensure that the information that Wikipedia (and a small number of other sites) contain is as accurate as possible.

Indeed, in the case of future threats to public health and safety, erroneous information on popular websites might well actually damage or derail departments&#039; efforts, so there is a clear public interest in engaging in this kind of activity.

Citations from reputable sources, such as government experts add credibility and should be encouraged.

Another advantage of Wikipedia (not shared by any government sites I am aware of), is that article changes are recorded in an auditable trail, which the user can access and view.

If government officials are to engage like this, I would like to see them editing as registered users rather than as anonymous editors, and for their user page to indicate such that they are editing in the capacity of  civil servant or other public capacity (there could even be a formalised UK government standard for presenting this &#039;government editor&#039; ID to the public).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost always use Wikipedia as a first port of call on a topic (before exploring it in more detail elsewhere if I feel the need). The site ranks high in most Google queries and so is exceptionally accessible. Much more so than most UK government sources of information.</p>
<p>Given that large numbers of people are likely to use Wikipedia to glean information on topics such as pandemics, terrorist attacks, etc. I think it ought to be the responsibility of government departments to ensure that the information that Wikipedia (and a small number of other sites) contain is as accurate as possible.</p>
<p>Indeed, in the case of future threats to public health and safety, erroneous information on popular websites might well actually damage or derail departments&#8217; efforts, so there is a clear public interest in engaging in this kind of activity.</p>
<p>Citations from reputable sources, such as government experts add credibility and should be encouraged.</p>
<p>Another advantage of Wikipedia (not shared by any government sites I am aware of), is that article changes are recorded in an auditable trail, which the user can access and view.</p>
<p>If government officials are to engage like this, I would like to see them editing as registered users rather than as anonymous editors, and for their user page to indicate such that they are editing in the capacity of  civil servant or other public capacity (there could even be a formalised UK government standard for presenting this &#8216;government editor&#8217; ID to the public).</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Fraser</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73141</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 13:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I almost always use Wikipedia as a first port of call on a topic (before exploring it in more detail elsewhere if I feel the need). The site ranks high in most Google queries and so is exceptionally accessible. Much more so than most UK government sources of information

Given that large numbers of the UK use Wikipedia are also likely to use the site to glean information on topics such as pandemics, terrorist attacks, etc. I think it ought to be the responsibility of government departments to ensure that the information that Wikipedia (and a small number of other sites) contain is as accurate as possible.

Indeed, in the case of future threats to public health and safety, erroneous information on popular government websites might well actually damage or derail departments&#039; efforts, so there is a clear public interest in engaging in this kind of activity.

Citations from reputable sources, such as government experts add credibility and should be encouraged.

Another advantage of Wikipedia (not shared by any government sites I am aware of), is that article changes are recorded in an auditable trail, which the user can access and view.

If government officials are to engage like this, I would like to see them editing as registered users rather than as anonymous editors, and for their user page to indicate such that they are editing in the capacity of  civil servant or other public capacity (there could even be a formalised UK government standard for presenting this &#039;government editor&#039; ID to the public).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I almost always use Wikipedia as a first port of call on a topic (before exploring it in more detail elsewhere if I feel the need). The site ranks high in most Google queries and so is exceptionally accessible. Much more so than most UK government sources of information</p>
<p>Given that large numbers of the UK use Wikipedia are also likely to use the site to glean information on topics such as pandemics, terrorist attacks, etc. I think it ought to be the responsibility of government departments to ensure that the information that Wikipedia (and a small number of other sites) contain is as accurate as possible.</p>
<p>Indeed, in the case of future threats to public health and safety, erroneous information on popular government websites might well actually damage or derail departments&#8217; efforts, so there is a clear public interest in engaging in this kind of activity.</p>
<p>Citations from reputable sources, such as government experts add credibility and should be encouraged.</p>
<p>Another advantage of Wikipedia (not shared by any government sites I am aware of), is that article changes are recorded in an auditable trail, which the user can access and view.</p>
<p>If government officials are to engage like this, I would like to see them editing as registered users rather than as anonymous editors, and for their user page to indicate such that they are editing in the capacity of  civil servant or other public capacity (there could even be a formalised UK government standard for presenting this &#8216;government editor&#8217; ID to the public).</p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73137</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Health_Information</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Health_Information" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Health_Information</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mo</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2009/05/what-is-swine-flu/comment-page-1/#comment-73135</link>
		<dc:creator>Mo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any information provided has to have proper citations anyway, and it&#039;s worth bearing in mind the international nature of both Wikipedia and Swine ’Flu itself.

The most “Wikipedian” way of approaching this is to have an article entitled something like “Public health information” containing links to various government’s sites; people from other countries can then fill in the blanks where appropriate. 

Then, add a link to that article from the Swine Influenza and 2009 swine flu outbreak pages with the text as something along the lines of “In light of the World Health Organisation’s classification of Swine Influenza as an imminent pandemic, people should seek advice from [public health officials] on how best to avoid and reduce the spread of infection.” It wouldn&#039;t hurt to stick it in one of the “alert” boxes you often see at the top of pages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any information provided has to have proper citations anyway, and it&#8217;s worth bearing in mind the international nature of both Wikipedia and Swine ’Flu itself.</p>
<p>The most “Wikipedian” way of approaching this is to have an article entitled something like “Public health information” containing links to various government’s sites; people from other countries can then fill in the blanks where appropriate. </p>
<p>Then, add a link to that article from the Swine Influenza and 2009 swine flu outbreak pages with the text as something along the lines of “In light of the World Health Organisation’s classification of Swine Influenza as an imminent pandemic, people should seek advice from [public health officials] on how best to avoid and reduce the spread of infection.” It wouldn&#8217;t hurt to stick it in one of the “alert” boxes you often see at the top of pages.</p>
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