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	<title>Comments on: Why David Cameron should publish his carbon footprint</title>
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		<title>By: Allan Cuthbertson</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2007/11/why-david-cameron-should-publish-his-carbon-footprint/comment-page-1/#comment-22218</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan Cuthbertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a total fraud Dave Cameron really is. Talk the talk on green issues but when it comes down to reality take a leather clad seat onboard Ashcrof Airlines where air travel is as cheap as Tory party manifesto promises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a total fraud Dave Cameron really is. Talk the talk on green issues but when it comes down to reality take a leather clad seat onboard Ashcrof Airlines where air travel is as cheap as Tory party manifesto promises.</p>
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		<title>By: Lobster Blogster</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2007/11/why-david-cameron-should-publish-his-carbon-footprint/comment-page-1/#comment-22217</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobster Blogster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 18:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron has declared on his blog that he offsets via Climate Care. You can see from this page:

http://www.climatecare.org/projects/ashden/

that he was a principle speaker for the 2006 Ashden award. It shouldn&#039;t be too difficult for Climate Care or Cameron to provide accurate offset figures for his travel:

https://www.climatecare.org/calculators/business/

says &quot;Climate Care&#039;s business CO2 calculator makes it easy for any size of UK based organisation to work out and offset their key CO2 emissions.&quot;

I do hope he hasn&#039;t just used the standard calculator though, because clearly helicopter flights and business jet travel will  have a somewhat higher footprint than ordinary scheduled flights. I can&#039;t see this detailled on their site, so we must expect that Mr Cameron has made special arrangements for his eco-auditing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron has declared on his blog that he offsets via Climate Care. You can see from this page:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climatecare.org/projects/ashden/" rel="nofollow">http://www.climatecare.org/projects/ashden/</a></p>
<p>that he was a principle speaker for the 2006 Ashden award. It shouldn&#8217;t be too difficult for Climate Care or Cameron to provide accurate offset figures for his travel:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.climatecare.org/calculators/business/" rel="nofollow">https://www.climatecare.org/calculators/business/</a></p>
<p>says &#8220;Climate Care&#8217;s business CO2 calculator makes it easy for any size of UK based organisation to work out and offset their key CO2 emissions.&#8221;</p>
<p>I do hope he hasn&#8217;t just used the standard calculator though, because clearly helicopter flights and business jet travel will  have a somewhat higher footprint than ordinary scheduled flights. I can&#8217;t see this detailled on their site, so we must expect that Mr Cameron has made special arrangements for his eco-auditing.</p>
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		<title>By: stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2007/11/why-david-cameron-should-publish-his-carbon-footprint/comment-page-1/#comment-22196</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 12:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not so much a carbon footprint more of carbon stampede.

Chris - as much as I would like to Dave&#039;s travel not to fall within the overseas travel exemption - I somehow feel that it would be difficult to argue in court that private jet travel did not fall within exemption - overseas travel is overseas travel it just that Old Etonians don&#039;t travel with the oiks.  Soemhow doubt that we will see Dave on a bicycle in the near future.

One area where the closer scrutiny is needed of the &quot;Ashcroft&quot; expenditure - is whether it is included in the Tories National Campaign Expenditure Totals - the Act is fairly clear that money spent on promoting the Party or its candidates (or attacking an opposing party) in the 12 months prior to a National Elections counts towards the (audited) national totals - and this is the case even when the expenditure is undertaken by accounting units of the national party (i.e Tory consituency associations) - see Section 72 of PPERA.  The interesting thing is that we are now in the qualifying period for the next European Parliament elections in June 2008 - so in theory there should be a limit on the current level of &quot;Ashcroft&quot; expenditure.   Shouldn&#039;t the Electoral Commission be doing something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so much a carbon footprint more of carbon stampede.</p>
<p>Chris &#8211; as much as I would like to Dave&#8217;s travel not to fall within the overseas travel exemption &#8211; I somehow feel that it would be difficult to argue in court that private jet travel did not fall within exemption &#8211; overseas travel is overseas travel it just that Old Etonians don&#8217;t travel with the oiks.  Soemhow doubt that we will see Dave on a bicycle in the near future.</p>
<p>One area where the closer scrutiny is needed of the &#8220;Ashcroft&#8221; expenditure &#8211; is whether it is included in the Tories National Campaign Expenditure Totals &#8211; the Act is fairly clear that money spent on promoting the Party or its candidates (or attacking an opposing party) in the 12 months prior to a National Elections counts towards the (audited) national totals &#8211; and this is the case even when the expenditure is undertaken by accounting units of the national party (i.e Tory consituency associations) &#8211; see Section 72 of PPERA.  The interesting thing is that we are now in the qualifying period for the next European Parliament elections in June 2008 &#8211; so in theory there should be a limit on the current level of &#8220;Ashcroft&#8221; expenditure.   Shouldn&#8217;t the Electoral Commission be doing something?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2007/11/why-david-cameron-should-publish-his-carbon-footprint/comment-page-1/#comment-22143</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on Visitor. The document was written by Zac Goldsmith and John Gummer. The quality of life group was launched by David Cameron.

At the time he said:

&quot;I&#039;ve asked the group to be radical in its thinking. I want it to work in an open and transparent way, taking evidence from leading NGOs and academic thinkers, engaging widely with the public. The group&#039;s work, which should take about 18 months, will help us formulate a long-term strategy that will make Britain a better place to live without constraining economic growth....&quot;

&quot;.....That&#039;s the central challenge that the Quality of Life group has been established to address. But its real test will be to take the tough long-term decisions to put aspirations into action. That&#039;s the test that a modern, compassionate Conservative party must pass.&quot;

GUARDIAN DECEMBER 2005

I think you should have a long hard think about who exactly is doing the misleading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh come on Visitor. The document was written by Zac Goldsmith and John Gummer. The quality of life group was launched by David Cameron.</p>
<p>At the time he said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve asked the group to be radical in its thinking. I want it to work in an open and transparent way, taking evidence from leading NGOs and academic thinkers, engaging widely with the public. The group&#8217;s work, which should take about 18 months, will help us formulate a long-term strategy that will make Britain a better place to live without constraining economic growth&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;..That&#8217;s the central challenge that the Quality of Life group has been established to address. But its real test will be to take the tough long-term decisions to put aspirations into action. That&#8217;s the test that a modern, compassionate Conservative party must pass.&#8221;</p>
<p>GUARDIAN DECEMBER 2005</p>
<p>I think you should have a long hard think about who exactly is doing the misleading.</p>
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		<title>By: Visitor</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2007/11/why-david-cameron-should-publish-his-carbon-footprint/comment-page-1/#comment-22132</link>
		<dc:creator>Visitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:06:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, the document you quote is from the Tory Quality of Life advisory group - ergo, not Tory policy. Everyone reading your site knows the score on this. When you elide that distinction, put it under the &quot;published by the Tory party&quot; phrase, it&#039;s technically accurate but misleading - and your excellent site loses credibility. Please don&#039;t let yourself down like this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, the document you quote is from the Tory Quality of Life advisory group &#8211; ergo, not Tory policy. Everyone reading your site knows the score on this. When you elide that distinction, put it under the &#8220;published by the Tory party&#8221; phrase, it&#8217;s technically accurate but misleading &#8211; and your excellent site loses credibility. Please don&#8217;t let yourself down like this!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris paul</title>
		<link>http://www.tom-watson.co.uk/2007/11/why-david-cameron-should-publish-his-carbon-footprint/comment-page-1/#comment-22119</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He came out as a carbon lightweight though, according to the Guardian&#039;s figures ... And they didn&#039;t address the overseas donor business ... I am not convinced the exception for &quot;paying for travel&quot; is meant to cover this. It is meant to cover going to se Mr JCB in his lair. Not &quot;anytime, anyplace, anywhere&quot; have jet will travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He came out as a carbon lightweight though, according to the Guardian&#8217;s figures &#8230; And they didn&#8217;t address the overseas donor business &#8230; I am not convinced the exception for &#8220;paying for travel&#8221; is meant to cover this. It is meant to cover going to se Mr JCB in his lair. Not &#8220;anytime, anyplace, anywhere&#8221; have jet will travel.</p>
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